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May
31

Are parents selfish if they have a big family?

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Why do people think it's selfish to have lots of kids?



Recently there was a bit of a dust-up in the combox at my sister's blog, Mama Says*, in which one commenter in particular charged that only selfish parents have big families. Having lots of kids (eight, in this case) allegedly is harmful to the older children in the family.

This is a mainstream attitude in modern American culture. Big families are viewed with scorn and derision, the parents accused of being selfish because either (a) they are dividing their love and attention among too many kids, (b) they are contributing to overpopulation, (c) they are using more than their share of natural resources, or (d) all of the above.

As a cradle Catholic, I have known a lot of big families. I even grew up in one, as the oldest of a brood of eight. But I have yet to meet a big family with selfish parents who are focused on fulfilling their own desires at the expense of either their family or our larger society.

I think this attitude stems from the discomfort people feel when they see large families. They cannot imagine themselves having a baseball team's worth of children, so they feel subconsciously threatened when they see one. That statement is not intended to be judgmental; it's human nature, and everyone experiences feelings like that when confronted with behavior that falls outside of social norms.

Why it is not selfish to have a big family


Let me present a picture of a typical big family. This fictional family has two parents and a startling number of kids. They have a strong religious faith, perhaps Catholic or Mormon or Evangelical. The parents at times feel overwhelmed by the sheer number of people underfoot. They know they could easily take steps to prevent themselves from having so many children, but they don't, because they have decided to trust God. They see each kid as a gift and have faith that God will provide for the kids he gave them. This is not a decision made lightly. This is radical, and they know it.

All the members of the family make a lot of sacrifices in order to follow this path. Maybe the kids aren't in as many organized activities, sports, and lessons as most of their peers. Maybe they go to restaurants less often, take fewer vacations, and share bedrooms. Maybe the younger kids rarely see a new article of clothing, being clad instead in hand-me-downs.

But they also have a lot of privileges that their peers will never know. They are never lonely. Their house is the neighborhood social hub for the 18-and-under set. They probably have a groupie or two, lonely children with no siblings whose parents work all day. They have a precocious understanding of the important things in life, like love and sharing. The older ones help their parents and learn child-care skills. They all learn practical life skills by doing chores, such as how to do laundry. They see what it is like to really live according to one's ideals and values.

They never have to hear their parents say that children are burdens, or that they are "so glad" they're done having kids.

And above all, they never, ever feel unloved. Big families like to repeat the saying that "love doesn't divide, it multiplies." It's more than a cute saying, it's literally true: the kids all love each other. Each new baby has a live-in fan club. Each older child has a crowd of younger devotees who think he is the coolest person on the planet.

The truth is, every parent of a crowd has no choice but to give of the deepest part of themselves, every single day. They are practically forced to be unselfish.

Selfish parents could not do this job.

* (cough cough) Which I helped design, by the way (ahem) not that I'm boasting or anything, but I have mad skillz don't I? Nevermind that I didn't do most of the work.

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I cannot believe that someone would get so mad about small comments about a TV show, that they go and insult someone on their blog just because they do not like what the blogger said about a TV show.

It's very sad and pathetic.

By the way, I love the fact that you said you helped design your sisters blog. Nothing is wrong with that. In fact, my sisters current blog header was designed by me.
Great! I love it - nice to meet you, MHM's sister :)
The issue is not big families. The issue is what type of commitment do you make to your child if they have serious special needs. Your sister's oldest child has a mental illness, he is bipolar. Yet, she continued to have seven, going on eight, more children. Her youngest child, age 2, has high blood pressure (with an as yet unknown cause) and does not speak. Your sister is pregnant with her 8th child. This is about the rights and care of children with special needs.
Hmm how do I word what I am thinking. From what I have seen first hand with my own child with Special Needs is that there are parents that have only one with special needs and they don't show care and love their one child as other with multiple children do. Then I have also seen children with special needs get all the attention and they have more issues than one that has brothers and sisters. It has helped my son by having a big brother than harmed him. And I would love to have more kids but God has not blessed me with them. Its not the family size its the parents care and love. Big or little familie can show love and care to children with special needs.
Sorry for the grammar mistakes. I forget to read it before I send it.
I only have four, but when a new child comes in, there is already a routine set place. God forbid I make my children pick up their own toy room every night! And yes the older toddler is in 'early intervention' because he does not speak and we all learned sign language to bridge him into speech. Also no, the oldest doesn't complain because she has to get her own glass of milk and place the glass in the sink after she is done.

Children are great, children should be loved, children are special to their parents, but that doesn't mean they are entitled to 'narcissistic princess epidemic' that they should be pampered and served as if they are they only ones that exist in on the planet. If not having a lot of siblings (like myself), even a greater extended family close byserves this function of giving the gift of humility, that there is a world beyond 'me'.
"Alison" - you are making very, very broad generalizations based on very limited experience and knowledge.

Each family is different. Milehi had her children as they came, and it's not like her eldest came out of the womb wearing a sign "I have special needs". I don't know the history, but I am sure at least several of those children came along well before the diagnosis of her eldest child. As for her two year old - communication issues are rather typical, and not just among those in large families and not just among those with special needs older siblings. They are not really special needs beyond needing a little extra help. My own nephew, the second of only two children, was speech delayed and had extra help and training until Kindergarten. Now, at age 8, he is nothing more or less than a "normal" kid.

Don't judge others on your very narrow view, experience or knowledge. You know absolutely nothing of the mother - and woman - you are going up against. You are a very narrow minded person with strong conviction, apparently. The problem with that is that you are convicted on something you have no knowledge of and that is a dangerous path to travel.
I went and read through the stuff on your sister's blog that you've mentioned here...

I can't believe Susan things that having more children around is a negative for children with special needs! One of my best friends just had a baby with special needs, and the doctors at DUKE all recommended that they have MULTIPLE children-- they said it would be BEST for the child with special needs!

And I attended Bob Jones University, where there are tons of home schooled students. Guess what? They're some of the best students around! My little sister's best friend from high school was home schooled until 9th grade-- with 5 other siblings. They're all bright kids, ATTENDING COLLEGE. Including Virginia Tech!

And it's great for children to grow up around children with special needs-- it gives them a broader knowledge and life experience. I've known several people that grew up with siblings that have special needs... and they went on to specialize in... you guessed it! Special Needs stuff!!
Just a quick note to all the excellent commenters:

This is not a personal blog. This blog views issues from a general perspective. That is why this post does not discuss any specific family.

Without discussing any particular family with special needs kids, I think something needs to be clarified. "Special needs" is just a label. A child is not defined by having so-called "special needs." The labels exist to make it easier to find the specific treatment that will benefit that child. But for the most part, they are just kids, normal kids in most ways. They aren't another species, monsters, or a reason to sacrifice the other aspects of life. The needs of each one have to be taken into consideration—but this is true for all children, whether or not they have a "label."

Thanks for your comments! I read them all.
All of the experiences in my life - including twenty years of constant contact with multiple families of multiple children - have led me to believe, with every fiber of my being, that parents of large numbers of children ("special needs" or not) are far more selfless than selfish. There is no time for selfishness when raising large amounts of children. Read every post in the archives at MHM's blog and you will come to believe this yourself.
A quick note to any Christian or Mormon reading this - do you really think that any parent, including MHM and her husband, would be given children who were a bigger challenge than he or she would be able to handle?
@Ginko100
So glad that you included the part about labels!! I know I definitely generalized in my comment :) Also, yes "they are just kids, normal kids in most ways." And most kids benefit from a little extra love, especially in the form of siblings!
I think a lot of people just get mentally lost in the logistics of dealing with so many kids. It seems like it ought to be impossible to be happy, healthy, and able to afford anything, but in practice things work a lot better. Something I found interesting was that I was only the oldest of three, and that third (my brother) made life a LOT easier for everyone than when there was just my sister and me. Having a younger sibling gave my sister another avenue to direct her energy and efforts, and was probably a psychological gift too. Whereas I'd often babysat her and thus was responsible and the OLDER sister, once my brother was born she didn't get to babysit for him- meaning the two could coexist more as playmates than kids locked in a power struggle. And if it weren't for our brother, I think she would have been a lot more driven to try to grow up too fast. He helps give her something to stay young for. Ü That's with just three kids; oh, the possibilities when you get beyond that!
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marjorie Conder · 823 weeks ago

Loved this column. Certainly you are an authority well qualified to speak to the joys and advantages of growing up in a large family!
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